- o In response to a question raised by Ask Nod on Facebook………Ask Nod “Roger that. Just rationally explain the dichotomy of Chicago’s current dilemma and how a decade of banning assault weapons from 94 to 04 made an appreciable difference in the unmitigated slaughter of humans and I’ll start voting per your instructions. I’m easy to convince. Try using facts rather than emotions. I sit and wait at your knee with parted lips and straining eyes, sir. I’ll be your huckleberry. I promise.”
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Ok, let’s see if I can make heads or tails out of ‘the facts’ so I can get my loyal huckleberry to vote as per my instructions. I suppose I should resist the expansion of the Assault Weapons Ban discussion by excluding Chicago blight of one on one murder, and I will. What I will address is what happened, and what may have happened between the years of 1994 and 2004 during the past Assault Weapons Ban. In this way I won’t be diverted by obfuscation and dilution. You see Huck, it’s not a dichotomy, it’s a false comparison. Let’s both stick to the facts.
First this http://election.princeton.edu/2012/12/14/did-the-federal-ban-on-assault-weapons-matter/
This data is expressed using the FBI definition of a mass shooting which is 4 dead.
|
Years |
Shootings | Per year | People shot/year |
| 1982-1994 |
19 |
1.5 |
25.5 |
|
1995-2004 |
16 |
1.6 |
20.9 |
| 2005-2012 |
27 |
3.4* |
54.8* |
*p<0.05 compared with 1995-2004. Since the expiration of the gun ban in 2004, the number of shootings per year has doubled, and the number of victims per year has nearly tripled. Three of the bloodiest four years shown here occurred since the expiration.
Next ……..
I, Brad, analyzed this data and eliminated the incidence of attacks with assault rifles and other weapons to determine (purely speculative I admit) what might have happened if they did have assault rifles rather than the pistols, bolt-action rifles, or shotguns that the shooters used.
In the following table, I, Brad, have identified and highlighted attacks that resulted in106 dead from non-assault rifles and 144 wounded between 1994 and 2001 – This data does not include incidents after May of 2001.
What would the body count have been if the shooters had assault rifles? I only counted the dead and wounded in mass shootings where a weapon other than an assault rifle was used. Clearly if an assault rifle had been used, deaths and injuries could have been much greater.
So how is it that you, Ask Nod, say the ban on assault rifles during this period didn’t work? I submit that the ban saved many lives. Can you show me how I’m wrong?
http://www.vpc.org/studies/wguncont.htm
Information for the chart has been gathered from a wide variety of publicly available news sources, which are often unclear and contradictory. Although every effort has been made to obtain the most accurate information possible, contradictions may exist between this chart and other sources. The determination as to whether a gun was obtained legally or illegally was made based on the law in effect at the time the firearm was acquired.
|
Description |
Casualties |
Firearm(s) |
Status of Firearm(s) |
| Santee High School Santana, California March 5, 2001 |
2 dead 13 wounded |
.22 Arminius eight-shot revolver | Legal |
| The White House Washington, DC February 7, 2001 |
1 wounded |
.38 revolver | Legal |
| Navistar International Corporation Melrose Park, Illinois February 5, 2001 |
5 dead 4 wounded |
SKS 1954R rifle Remington 12-gauge shotgun Winchester .30 rifle .38 revolver | Legal |
| Edgewater Technology office Wakefield, Massachusetts December 26, 2000 |
7 dead |
AK-47 assault rifle 12-gauge pump-action shotgun .32 pistol | Legal |
| Backstreet Café Roanoke, Virginia September 22, 2000 |
1 dead 6 wounded |
Ruger 9mm pistol | Legal |
| Santos Linguisa sausage factory San Leandro, California June 21, 2000 |
3 dead |
Beretta 9mm pistol Walther .380 pistol | Legal |
| Lake Worth Middle School Lake Worth, Florida May 26, 2000 |
1 dead |
Raven .25 pistol | Legal |
| Wendy’s Restaurant Queens, New York May 24, 2000 |
5 dead 2 wounded |
Bryco .380 pistol | Illegal |
| Pittsburgh Suburbs Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania April 28, 2000 |
5 dead 1 wounded |
Smith & Wesson .357 revolver | Legal |
| National Zoo Washington, DC April 24, 2000 |
7 wounded |
9mm pistol | Illegal |
| Mi-T-Fine Car Wash Irving, Texas March 20, 2000 |
5 dead 1 wounded |
9mm pistol | Illegal |
| Theo J. Buell Elementary School Mt. Morris Township, Michigan February 29, 2000 |
1 dead |
Davis Industries .32 pistol | Illegal |
| Radisson Bay Harbor Inn Tampa, Florida December 30, 1999 |
5 dead 3 wounded |
Lorcin 9mm pistol Charter Arms .38 revolver | Legal |
| Fort Gibson Middle School Fort Gibson, Oklahoma December 6, 1999 |
4 wounded |
Taurus 9mm pistol | Legal |
| Northlake Shipyard Seattle, Washington November 3, 1999 |
2 dead 2 wounded |
Glock 9mm pistol .32 pistol .22 rifle | Illegal |
| Xerox Office Building Honolulu, Hawaii November 2, 1999 | 7dead3 wounded | Glock Model 17 9mm pistol | Legal |
| Wedgewood Baptist Church Fort Worth, Texas September 15, 1999 |
8 dead 7 wounded |
Ruger P85 9mm pistol .380 pistol | Legal |
| Laurel, Maryland September 9, 1999 |
2 dead |
Smith & Wesson 9mm pistol | Illegal |
| North Valley Jewish Community Center Los Angeles, California August 10, 1999 |
1 dead 5 wounded |
Fully automatic Uzi machine gun Glock Model 26 9mm pistol | Illegal |
| Atlanta brokerage offices Atlanta, Georgia July 29, 1999 |
13 dead 13 wounded |
Glock Model 17 9mm pistol Colt 1911A1 .45 pistol | Legal |
| Illinois and Indiana July 4th weekend, 1999 |
3 dead 9 wounded |
Bryco .380 pistol Ruger .22 pistol | Illegal |
| Heritage High School Conyers, Georgia May 20, 1999 |
6 wounded |
.22 rifle .357 Magnum revolver | Legal |
| Columbine High School Littleton, Colorado April 20, 1999 |
15 dead 23 wounded |
Intratec TEC-DC9 assault pistol Hi-Point 9mm Carbine Savage 67H pump-action shotgun Savage 311-D 12-gauge shotgun | Illegal |
| LDS Church Family History Library Salt Lake City, Utah April 15, 1999 |
3 dead 4 wounded |
Ruger .22 pistol | Legal |
| Triad Center Salt Lake City, Utah January 13, 1999 |
1 dead 1 wounded |
9mm pistol | Legal |
| U.S. Capitol Building Washington, DC July 24, 1998 |
2 dead 2 wounded |
Smith & Wesson .38 revolver | Legal |
| Los Angeles, California May 28, 1998 |
2 dead |
Two .38 revolvers | Legal |
| Thurston High School Springfield, Oregon May 21, 1998 |
4 dead 25 wounded |
Glock 9mm pistol Ruger .22 rifle Ruger .22 pistol | Legal |
| Westside Middle School Jonesboro, Arkansas March 24, 1998 |
5 dead 10 wounded |
Remington Model 742 .30-06 rifle Universal .30 M1 Carbine replica Davis Industries .38 two-shot derringer Double Deuce Buddie .22 two-shot derringer Charter Arms .38 revolver Star .380 pistol FIE .380 pistol Ruger Security Six .357 revolver Smith & Wesson .38 revolver | Legal |
| Connecticut State Lottery Headquarters Newington, Connecticut March 6, 1998 |
5 dead |
9mm pistol | Legal |
| Caltrans Maintenance Yard Orange, California December 18, 1997 |
5 dead 2 wounded |
Chinese-made 7.62mm AK-47 assault rifle | Legal |
| Heath High School West Paducah, Kentucky December 1, 1997 |
3 dead 5 wounded |
Ruger .22 pistol | Illegal |
| Pearl High School Pearl, Mississippi October 1, 1997 |
3 dead 7 wounded |
.30-30 rifle | Legal |
| R.E. Phelon Company Aiken, South Carolina September 15, 1997 |
4 dead 3 wounded |
9mm pistol | Illegal |
| Four states (MN, IL, FL, NY) April 27 – July 15, 1997 |
6 dead |
Taurus .40 pistol | Illegal |
| North Hollywood, California February 28, 1997 |
2 dead 16 injured |
Multiple fully automatic assault rifles including an AK-47 type | Illegal |
| Empire State Building New York, New York February 23, 1997 |
2 dead 6 wounded |
Beretta .380 pistol | Illegal |
| Albertson’s Supermarket Lakewood, Colorado April 28, 1995 |
3 dead 1 wounded |
Grizzly .50 sniper rifle SKS 7.62mm assault rifle 9mm pistol .32 pistol | Legal |
| Walter Rossler Company Corpus Christi, Texas April 3, 1995 |
6 dead |
Ruger 9mm pistol .32 revolver | Legal |
| Corpus Christi, Texas March 31, 1995 |
1 dead |
Taurus .38 revolver | Legal |
| DC Police Headquarters Washington, DC November 22, 1994 |
4 dead 1 wounded |
Cobray M-11 assault pistol | Illegal |
| White House Washington, DC October 29, 1994 |
none |
Norinco SKS 7.62mm assault rifle | Illegal |
| Seattle, Washington April 5, 1994 |
1 dead |
Remington Model 11 20-gauge shotgun | Legal |
| Brooklyn Bridge New York, New York March 1, 1994 |
1 dead 3 wounded |
Cobray 9mm fully automatic machine pistol Glock Model 17 9mm pistol | Illegal |
As I conclude this posting, let me encourage my faithful huckleberry to not let his emotions get in the way as he counts the dead and wounded in the mass public shootings. And please, if you, my huckleberry, chose to extrapolate this information by imagining the shooters using assault rifles with high capacity magazines rather than the pistols, shotguns, and bolt action rifles they did use, and come up with a far greater number of probable deaths and injuries, don’t let it affect your judgment; especially when you do the body counts amassed in our schools nationwide. After all, it’s not an emotional issue is it? It’s just numbers right?
Feel free to comment, and if you desire, you may continue your slightly cavalier approach to massacre and your mildly condescending tone. I don’t mind, really I don’t. Thousands might, but I don’t.















